Second part of the Gaiden. (covering the third story). Thanks to everyone for your comments. I’m glad that we’re getting some discussion in.
Jijoku no Sata mo Kimi Shidai (This is based on a Japanese saying, and basically means something like “even the affairs of hell change at your command” _< However, at least we got more background info on Houju.
As for Houju, can we throw him a pity party? T_T This story makes you feel really bad for him, because it becomes clear that he really is a good person. Shouldn’t Reishin feel more remorse? Or shouldn’t he have let him off more easily with a “it’s not you, it’s me” message? Well, I guess that would be out of character for him, but this also shows that Houju is a really great friend, because most people would not be friends under such circumstances. (Or has Houju figured it out? Reishin thinks he will…) Heck, people have stopped being friends when their friend can’t get along with their spouse. In a way, it does show how important Houju is to him, because he did it to preserve their friendship, by making Yuri out to be the bad guy… but hmm, really, this just comes off as rather selfish, but I suppose the author wants us to forgive Reishin somewhat because he didn’t think the letter would be hurtful? But on the other hand, what if Houju meets Yuri-hime by accident? What in the world are they going to say to one another? (haha maybe this will happen later. I look forward to it. )
Er… Reishin’s line about ways of making children that don’t produce children. XDDD I’m not really sure I want to know what the fans are going to make of this one. You know if you give people a prime opportunity to address questions referring to, shall we say, questionable material, then they probably will take advantage of that. After all, they can say that it’s totally canonical. XD Although, actually, the story is rather chaste. They don’t even hug, let alone kiss.
I wonder if Kouyuu knows that Yuri-hime is none other than Ryuuki’s aunt? It’s not really clear. However, I wonder if Shuuei knows, given that the Ran clan seems to know a lot. On the other hand, Shuuei would have no reason to look into that matter, but it’s never explicitly stated he doesn’t know. Considering that Shuuei is a fairly subtle person, and up to this point, Yuri-hime has played no role in the main plot, it’s not impossible that he does. Hmm, I was hoping also that we would see the Ran triplets show up, but in terms of timeline, they had already left the capital by the time Reishin arrived. So I’m curious as to where their legendary grudge comes from, as well.
I continue to feel sorry for Kurou. Actually, I’m disappointed that this volume didn’t have more Kurou; I hope he’ll play more of a role in later volumes. Jeez, this guy gets the short end of the stick on everything. Made to do all of the work, left out of the great secrets, and now he even gets radically less pagetime. (Amusingly, if you want to be punny, you can write his name in kanji as “苦労” (hard work).) It also makes me wonder about Kurou’s marriage. Did he manage to get married in a normal way (which I am sure Kurou would prefer, none of this nonsense about arguing with the emperor (who wanted the bride dead) and abductions and cross-dressing and repeated rejections and slaughtering hordes of Hyou and assassinations and romantic rivals psychologically scarred for life and the time-honored Kou clan tradition of moving heaven and earth and damn the consequences to get what one wants), or did he also eventually cause scandal? It’s a good thing that Kurou seems to feel no urge to outshine his brothers, because after a sennyo and a princess, I’m not sure what he would do to top those acts.
I now want Shuurei and Ryuuki to meet their aunt. XD I also want to see the moment where Ryuuki realizes he’s also gained an uncle. On the other hand, I think Reishin’s reaction to Ryuuki calling him uncle would be more on the lines of DO NOT WANT.
I really wonder what impact this new information will have on Kouyuu’s current job problems, Reishin’s strike, and Ou Ki’s coup. Who comes first in the order of succession, Ou Ki or Yuri-hime? Yuri-hime is a woman, but Ou Ki doesn’t even seem to be known as part of the imperial clan. Will Ou Ki seek Yuri-hime’s approval or otherwise target her? And what of the Hyou clan? The Hyou clan is so amorphous and confusing. Does this mean Shusui might be related to the imperial family? More and more questions emerge. Once again, awaiting the next volume.

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November 20, 2007 at 10:23 pm
aliene
ooo long one but great story. NOW here’s some MEAT!!!
“To make this even more effective, she tells him that the mansion is haunted, and has the servants move the furniture around to confuse him, which later leads to Kou losing all sense of direction. ”
#1 laughable instance in Li Kouyuu’s life hahhaha. How say? Poor boy
I pity Hoju though…it’s little wonder why he still gets annoyed by it all up till today …all he wanted was some love =0
Heheh be back later to read the last summary.
November 20, 2007 at 10:42 pm
aliene
Ah ok doubleposting but I have read the whole post now
You’re right, it does throw up more questions. A few thoughts:
1. “However, I recall that somewhere it is stated that this comes after he passed the exams, so perhaps this is to be expected. ”
It’s mentioned in the first or second books that he had too many horrible proposals or something, wasn’t it? =0
2. The kiddy meetings between the current main players and the “previous generation”
I didn’t think Yuri would have met Ryuuki and stuff before. So that was a nice touch, having Yuri meet her little nephew.
3. Shouka
Ah goodness, the more you read of his “real” motives the more it makes you sweat. He’s really a dangerous guy, both in terms of brains and brawn. It’s a little beyond me why Yuri loved him though.
4. Reishin & Yuri
Seems like up till now, Yuri doesn’t reciprocate his feelings in the same way…Which makes me feel a litle sad for him, seeing that he has always really really cared for her in his unique way. It just seems like she’s accepted him, and since she still does care for him in a way, she’s chosen to stick around. Vs what she feels for Hoju, which is like…”he’s a good guy” that’s all =0
5. Reishin and his friends
Hmm you were saying that you’re not sure what Reishin has done for his friends…I suppose they know that he cares in his own gruff and weird way. He’s not an awful guy really…
Ah that’s all for now…see if anyone else throws up more discussion points XD
November 20, 2007 at 10:47 pm
heather
Thanks for the translation. As sad as that story is…is fits Reishin’s personality. Well, now we know why Kouyuu has no direction sense! He got the raw deal, poor kid. Picked up by a strange man believing to be a kidnapper, told by the woman that he was mean so you better not run and the house is haunted…LOL no wonder Kouyuu is so confused.
As for Houyjo…I feel so bad for him. He is such a nice man! He needs some love too!
Yeah, Reishin has it good (for being so loved by friends, wife, and son) for who he is. But I loved his XX answer on the “we can do other things that won’t make children” kind of answer! LOL
November 20, 2007 at 10:51 pm
heather
Here is another thought…Maybe Yuri would like Reishin more if she got some XXX action which might result in having a child. I know I would be a little less umm “loving” if my husband would only ever do things that didn’t result in child making. That can only carry a person for so long! LOL
November 20, 2007 at 11:40 pm
KaeBoo
THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH!
A story that focuses on one side of the mirror of which i feel is a kaleidoscope piece.
It seems that the only friends Reishin actually has are Yuushu, Houju, Kouyuu and Yuri. Yuri seems to have becomes his best friend in the process.
A very sweet entanglement of personalities. The author showed the softer side for each strong person and the darker side of those who seem to be squeaky clean and likable, except for the current generation. Even Senka’s concern for his sister was shown.
Let’s see…Another parallelism seems to start from this story… Senka knows who Yuri is. He knows that she has fallen for Shouka but Shouka preferred another, whence, she has learned to wholeheartedly prefer Reishin whom the emperor then doesn’t approve of.
Is it possible that Shuurei has indeed fallen for Seiran but she would later on realize about his dark side which would trigger her to prefer Ryuuki, the younger brother instead?
Ok, ok… so I’m crazy. It’s just that things they showed in this story seem to be pointing at something but it remains too blurry to read.
Houju was said to have started wearing the mask that he would usually wear because Yuri said he was too pretty so she refused him. Poor guy. Maybe, the reason why Reishin makes his masks for him is partly guilt?
Reishin is not a bad person, but I would still maintain that he is vain, egocentric and perverted.
“making children without producing children” I can’t help but laugh at this.
Poor Kouyuu… to a degree, he and Reishin are but the same. Very smart, yet clueless.
They need women to clean up the mess they get themselves into!!!
November 21, 2007 at 12:38 am
roxy
Thank you so much for summarizing!
“Reishin says that there are ways of making children that don’t make children.”
lolololol! Absolutely made of win!!!
November 21, 2007 at 5:33 am
Lily
Thank you Charmian for the summary, it was great to know the history of the Kou brothers.
Kouyuu must be in such a hard positions coz both parent seems to have a dysfunctional relationship which puts him in between. But both of the parent seems to dedicate their love to him eventhough both of them have a dysfunctional relationship.
Anyway rather than staying at the rough world on the street at least Kouyuu being raised by Yuri and Reishin would have a better life.Reishin sure is good in hiding his feeling in everything and ensure that he gets what he wants albeit a bit selfishly.
Boy oh boy, Reishin is sure advance in thinking about contraceptives.
November 21, 2007 at 11:55 am
rooie
Thanks for the summary.
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It’s always great to read your summary
Many of my questions already been answered somewhat on the messages above.
But I am still wondering what does Kouyuu call Yuri-Hime?
On book 3, while he was talking to Souka he said “I asked adoptive father ……” but does he ever call Reishin father in front Reishin?
November 21, 2007 at 10:12 pm
heather
Did anyone notice how alike both Reishin and Yuri are? They are well suited to eachother.
I wonder when everything finally plays out if Ryuukie will call Reishin Uncle! LOL I can almost see the veins in Reishin’s face on that one!
November 22, 2007 at 10:30 am
rooie
Kurou advanced Reishin a lot of money
…. I am just wondering how they do this back then since it’s not would not be as easy as picking up the phone (or sending email) and said ”Kurou I need some money so transfer them to me will you” XD.
I don’t know the distance between Kou Province and the Capital City but I am assuming it will take some time for dispatch courier to get to Kou province from the capital city.
Even if they are using a homing pigeon it still takes some times or maybe they have something really really fast (Ran’s Clan owns a super fast ship-Kou clan must have something too).
Do they have even have banks back then?
November 22, 2007 at 11:45 am
PrincessMe
Banks???? saiunkoku had banks??? WOW, seriously if that is true………….
Btw, I tink this summary rocks. I really liked the part where we finally know why Koyuu is so directionally challenged!!
incidentally, does anyone have links on where I can read the novel in english (or whatver parts of that is available In English) or In Chinese (I’ve bullied one of me Chinese classmates into translating for me!)lol, that would be great!
November 22, 2007 at 3:13 pm
PrincessMe
I’m not sure they sell it Malaysia. Even if they do it would probably be around RM20 -RM 40.00 or more after subbing. So it’s way out of my price range. I mean I may be able to afford one but it would take me months to save up to pay for another book.
That’s why this site has been my salvation so far!!
November 22, 2007 at 8:06 pm
L-chan
I managed to plow through this story too (damn complicated kanji), and it was worth it. Good job on the summary!
While Yuri is of the imperial line, can she really make a bid for the throne now that she’s married? I would think that her marriage to the family head kinda bars her from becoming queen.
One thing I really like about this story is how it shows just how much Reishin really loves Yuri without adhering to stereotypical lovey-dovey stuff, as it would be very un-Reishin -like to do so. But when he actually DOES do something more normal (like promise to play the biwa only for her) it comes off with more impact.
Man, they really need to make this into an OVA.
November 24, 2007 at 11:44 am
Anonymous
Out of curiousity, is Ryuuki ( as the emperor?) considered to be the head of the Shi Family? If so, how come we haven’t seen any other members of the Shi Clan?
I think its mentioned somewhere also that the Shi Province is guarded by the Shi Provincial Army and thE Imperial Army?
Is this true?
November 24, 2007 at 12:49 pm
PrincessMe
Btw, the abve comment was made by me
forgot to put my nick on! im blur some times
November 24, 2007 at 5:10 pm
krystallite
Sorry I’m slow but I finally realized something. Doesn’t the fact that Yuri is Ryuuki’s aunt and Shuurei’s aunt mean that Shuurei and Ryuuki are cousins?!?! (Wow, that means that there’s a certain degree of incest between the two main characters.)
November 21, 2007 at 12:40 am
charmian
Well, they don’t really live separately, as much as that recently (not sure about the past, since she is mentioned as raising Kouyuu, so she must have been around) she’s been away from home a lot.
I would uh… guess that they have, considering how Reishin seems enthusiastic.
Yeah, I’m assuming she thinks she’s infertile, but there isn’t really any direct evidence. As I said before, it really could be that she thinks she’s terminally ill (and IMHO, what Uu thinks is a matter with her is different from what she thinks is).
November 25, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Anonymous
Thanks for the summary.This story is so involved but though it left a lot of questions unanswered it did answer others.
I believe that Reishin in addition to be obnoxious and arrogant really does not know how to interact with people. Thus someone would really have to know him intimately in order to read between his lines! Thus, Yuri-hime realises that she has become dear to him, unlike poor Kouyuu who cannot read this aspect of Reishin because as close as he s to him it is the relationship of Guardian and ward rather than friends.
I realise that Houju really could not have married Yuri and keep her safe from intrigue and assassins so its a good thing she ended up with Reishin. (I actually think they make a good couple)
The friendship between Reishin, Houju and Yuushun seems to be a strong one which had been forged during their time at the exams and I think Houju is smart enough to realise that Reishin wrote that letter but he has forgiven him for telling a ‘lie’ which made it easier for him to go on with his life.
I especially like that Yuushun seems to be like a big brother to Reishin, helping him to act appropriately and consider others’ feelings. (he got him to cosider appologising to Yuri)
I am sad to hear of the fall out from Kouyuu’s meeting Reishin and Yuri’s role in making him totally direction-challenged! Poor poor Kouyuu! (about the name thing. Its almost like he did not exist before Reishin took him in)
I like the evidence that Reishin does like Kouyuu by naming him after the plum tree which he associates with the two people he care for other than Shuurei and Shouka. Kouyuu had a slightly sad childhood but it is good that he had Yuri-hime when he was growing up. Maybe we will get another gaidan which reveals what happened to make Kouyuu hate women.
I guess Reishin does not like Ryuuki because he saw Yuri kiss him! He seems like the type of person to get jealous of a child’s affection!
Unfortunately this story also emphasises again how pathetic Ryuuki’s life was (he did not know his father) but I am glad that Yuri-hime told him he would meet Seien again…gosh someone should have cut this kid a little slack! I guess this makes Reishin a bit of a monster for ill-treating Ryuuki after meeting him (kinda like kicking a puppy)
I am glad to see evidence that Senka had some concern for his sixth son!! Did they say that he had daughters who were sent to the Hyou?
QUESTION:
So thanks again for the indepth summary, this story featured my fave characters and I have a question. In one of the magazines there is a picture with Reishin, Houju, Yuushuna nd a strange bearded man. It is called the fearsome foursome. Any idea who the fourth guy is?
So how does one make children without making children? Is Reishin suggesting that they have affairs with lovers of their own sex? This would indeed guarantee no babies. I doubt it means that Reishin does not like the idea of having sex at all so it has to be as I said. He did suggest he was agreeable to Yuri having a yuri relationship (there I said it!! ^__________^)
November 25, 2007 at 2:32 pm
bootoye
sorry I forgot to sign in! My post is above and I am really
happy for this summary ^_^
November 21, 2007 at 1:10 am
O.O
maybe she’s never had her period? would be reason why she knows she’s infertile? (speculations)
Oh yeah I am sure Reishin’s getting his cake at home lol (he just needs it A LOT cuz he sure gets crabby a lot)
Btw Reishin is such a JERK ! Houju should totally spite him and marry Shuurei and then he’ll have to spend the rest of his life dying of envy that Houju got his beloved niece
Reishin is truly a selfish kid (he wants to have his cake and eat it I.e having yuri hime and still being friends with houju)
November 23, 2007 at 10:54 pm
L-chan
*snicker* Maybe one of the reasons she decided to stay despite Reishin being a selfish brat is because he’s awesome in bed.
November 20, 2007 at 10:54 pm
charmian
Yeah, damn, that took me a long time to summarize. XD
You do feel sorry for Kouyuu in this. He seems to make one mistake after another.
I do feel v. sorry for Houju! T_T I hope the author does let him have a happy ending.
November 20, 2007 at 10:58 pm
charmian
Yep, something like that. I didn’t want to state something I wasn’t sure about, though.
I wonder if he remembers her? That would be interesting.
Well, Shouka is nice, but it’s kind of a kindess with a hidden cruelty. It’s interesting that Yuri is the first character to feel real resentment towards Shouka, though.
Yuri was thinking of being with Houju, but it’s not really something that could happen, because of the Hyou clan, as well.
Yeah, deep down, Reishin is more annoying than bad, and he does care about people, just… doesn’t really show it in a way understandable to most. I just was rather amazed at all the effort Yuushun put forth for him. He stayed around and tried to get Reishin to see his true feelings (mostly failure), and then tried to get Yuri to go back to Reishin. Well, he was more effective than Kou(yuu). XD
November 20, 2007 at 11:01 pm
charmian
I know, poor Kouyuu. I wasn’t expecting that to be explained, so it’s nice that it was. XD
Ahaha, that was hilarious.
November 20, 2007 at 11:03 pm
charmian
Well, I already think she does like him enough. I’m uh… not sure about what birth control methods are available in Saiunkoku. (Not sure I want to know either…)
But yeah, I think it is interesting that we have all of these people who don’t have children or can’t, and there’s the question of whether Shuurei can or can’t have children, which the reader kind of wonders about. (It’s never explicitly stated, but it seems to be the most obvious reason that she thinks she can’t get married. The other one is terminal illness, but I don’t think that is as obvious…)
November 20, 2007 at 11:47 pm
charmian
Yeah, Yuri probably is his best friend, although I guess Yuushun is also up there, too. Kouyuu is more of a… family member though? In some ways he doesn’t understand Reishin as much as Yuri and Yuushun do.
I think, though, Senka actually covertly approves of the relationship between Reishin and Yuri, he doesn’t really object to it, just sort of waves her off and is kind of like hahaha, looks like you really do have a place to return to.
Since Saiunkoku has gotten so many characters, you also do start to draw all of these faint parallels. Just as Reishin is a lonely person, so is Ryuuki, for example.
Indeed… I’m kind of worried what will become of Kouyuu. He really has been seeming so hapless recently. Shuuei managed to go and take control of his destiny, in quite an impressive way. Hopefully Kouyuu will be less comic-relief like and do something in the next volume.
November 21, 2007 at 10:18 pm
heather
I could see Shuurei freaking out about Serian darker side and wanting Ryuukie because of it. Shuurei is not one who deals well with the reality of and depth of people’s personalities, especially the darker ones (due to Serian and her father never showing her these sides of themselves). It will be interresting to see if she learns about both of their dark sides and how that would affect her.
And really people, do we really want to see Reishin with his OWN child??? If he gets that stirred up about Shuurei could you imagine what he would be like with a real blood child of his own? Good think Shoka only had one kid otherwise Reishin’s head would have probably expoloded.
But I do have to wonder about what that old Hyou clan leader said about Shuurei’s power…to have men become obsessed with her and because of it, ruin their lives. If this is true, it would explain a lot.
November 21, 2007 at 12:30 am
O.O
Well I suppose Reishin can always use the good old fashion withdraw method or Rhythm method…not that either is 100% reliable lol
Makes me wonder if they ever consumated their marriage if they live separately?O.O
In case of Shuurei being able to bear children is important and matter of state if she is to become Ryuuki’s consort (Wouldn’t be so much of a problem if like UU said she was ONE of many but not THE only one)
ah!
November 21, 2007 at 12:56 am
KaeBoo
not only their loneliness, but the fact that they see the sole existence in their lives are their brothers.
The respect, the love, the loyalty, the devotion and the longing they have for their brothers deeply rooted in their persons.
Kouyuu, minus the name, is indeed family for Reishin and Yuri. Even if he does not read Reishin the way Yuushun and Yuri do and he was made as an instrument so Reshin could understand Shouka better, he still feels that he owes his life to the Kou clan because of Reishin.
Shouka is a very dark character. The way I see it, he has all the answers to most of our questions, but I don’t think all of his secrets will be divulged in the main plot. I’d be expecting another side story dedicated only to him and his endeavors to lead us to understand how things in the next stories would come out.
which drives me back to the lunacy of waiting, guessing whatever would come next and get impatient for having found more questions.
X( the rewards of being a SaiMono junkie… priceless. hahaha
November 21, 2007 at 1:16 am
charmian
Yes, although that changed for both of them.
He is. At the end of the short short story, it describes Kouyuu as her son. Well, given that he is essentially like Reishin’s son, it’s not really surprising that he can’t understand Reishin, because he’s not a peer to him.
Yep. Well, especially considering his involvement in the whole Bara-hime plot. And yeah, Shouka really has become a dark character; like, Shouka is a good person, and benevolent, but in a rather dark and tragic way.
November 21, 2007 at 1:19 am
charmian
I was thinking that too… I think one problem the novels face is that they’re intended for a younger audience, but sometimes we adults can see more mature implications in the story.
Yeah, he is a jerk. XD Pretty much Reishin is a selfish kid. Although, I kind of do wonder whether Houju is just pretending to be fooled by the message, and just wears the masks for convenience’s sake (so that he is no longer a walking disaster zone.)
November 21, 2007 at 1:39 am
KaeBoo
Oh yeah I am sure Reishin’s getting his cake at home lol (he just needs it A LOT cuz he sure gets crabby a lot) <– a stress reliever, eh? hahaha
SaiMono is supposed to be GP, remember? it’s not to be rated PG, you know.
With the fact that they are always away from each other, he must be itchin’, ain’t he? (chuckles)
He still holds true to his promise, though. He’s not like Shouka who always breaks promises… There are still no children produced by both of them, at least none that the books speak of. lol
November 21, 2007 at 2:04 am
aliene
I think you may be right on this though, Charmian….
From your summary, it seems that Hoju is really just more hurt by the fact that others do not see past his face. That is his #1 issue. He feels bad he caused people to fail the exams as well and such. I think his continuing to cover his face, is to allow himself to live as what he is, and not just what his face is. (Does that make sense? >_<) And….I think he’s grown to find fun in all those rumors about him heh.
November 21, 2007 at 2:23 am
charmian
Yeah, it’s just speculation, and also we don’t really get to see how Houju reacted to the mean letter. (I hope at least Yuushun was there to console him…)
But I think it does make Houju’s life much more simple to wear the masks, especially that now people do judge him by his personality and inner self.
November 21, 2007 at 10:21 pm
heather
I think your on to something with that. I thought it was sad that he went out at night to get ink (so that he wouldn’t cause so many problems for people). He really is a softy. I feel really bad for him.
November 22, 2007 at 3:24 am
aliene
He does seem alot “nicer” and softer and gentler in this Gaiden though, compared to how he acts now
November 21, 2007 at 2:56 am
aliene
As the story progresses, I find it harder to outrightly like Shouka…though I suppose he was in a very difficult situation in those days. I just like it better when people hide themselves a little less.
Kouyuu…Reishin never really makes him do anything he doesn’t want to really.But Kouyuu himself is too resposible to NOT do some of those things. But we know he’ll come through in the end….Remember, “li” in administration! He’s going to be more famous, and a pillar of support for Ryuuki. Question is, how’s he going to overcome it all? It’s moreso a matter of overcoming his own sense of responsibility than overcoming the “Kou” family expectations though. And Shuuei’s resolution of his own issues will surely give him some food for thought.
Since embarking on his “3rd” life, Kouyuu’s purpose was to support Reishin, no? He needs to find a new purpose, one that will last him a lifetime. I think Reishin wants that for him too. I recall he chided Kurou about making Kouyuu the next clan leader and Reishin has reasons for not bestowing the Kou family name on Kouyuu…Shouka wants that for him too, remember he said he’d take over as clan leader if needed and live a long life so Kouyuu could be free of that burden.
November 21, 2007 at 3:20 am
charmian
I like Shouka, but I just wonder if we’re really meant to see his decisions as correct. He did apologize to Yuri for breaking his promise, though.
I just wonder what Reishin is thinking by his latest actions. It’s putting Kouyuu in a very difficult position; but with Shuuei, it’s more that he had to force Setsuna to let him go, and he had already made the decision within himself. Shuuei loves Setsuna as an elder brother, but he isn’t indebted to him and bound in the same way that Kouyuu is to Reishin, or Reishin is to Shouka. But yes, I agree, that Reishin wants Kouyuu to be free; although Reishin is arrogant and annoying, it really is true that he hasn’t lived freely. (am not sure how conscious the author is of that)
November 21, 2007 at 5:04 am
aliene
Yeah…even the freeiest Ryuuren has to bow in to his brother’s pressure sometimes. Honor, duty, responsibility, family. Tsk tsk…
Yah, the indebtedness…Which is why I say for Kouyuu, his issue is responsibility. But that makes him a good kid!
Umm Reishin’s latest actions? which actions are you referring to? =0
November 21, 2007 at 7:21 am
charmian
That’s why it’s better not to be a noble. If you’re someone who’s a peasant, like Eigetsu, you’re pretty much free!
Oh, how in book 12 Reishin refuses to go to work (the Saiunkoku taxpayers! Poor them…).
November 21, 2007 at 7:28 am
charmian
Well, I don’t know if Kouyuu is overly disturbed by the weird relationship between Yuri and Reishin. I think his issues more stem from his own relationship with Reishin, like Reishin’s abysmal communication skills. (Hint to Reishin: people will not understand what you mean if you pay attention to plants rather than them.
November 21, 2007 at 5:55 pm
charmian
Interestingly, he calls her “Yuri-san,” rather than Yuri-sama or Yuri-hime.
No, I don’t ever recall him doing so.
November 21, 2007 at 9:21 pm
aliene
I think Kouyuu is a little insecure as to what he means to Reishin. This was quite evident in the bits when he wondered why he wasn’t given the “kou” family name right? Yeah, and his insecurities stem from Reishin’s lack of uh…”normal” communication skills hahah.
November 21, 2007 at 9:24 pm
aliene
Oh I dindn’t notice this before…but yeah he hasn’t really address Reishin come to think of it. Could this not addressing them as father and mother be part of his insecurity as to his place in the family? XD So dysfunctional kakaka.
November 22, 2007 at 2:32 pm
rooie
The books are thick.
They are approximately 200 some pages each book.
So if you are trying to print them, you will used up lots of paper and toners.
I bought mine from Taiwan online book store (it’s about $4.00 CAD each).
November 22, 2007 at 9:14 pm
KaeBoo
There are lots of things that they can mine into becoming part of an OVA, so it would most likely be done, IMHO.
I’m beginning to feel that despite Reishin being egocentric, vain and perverted, he’d be among the characters I really like.
Cliche as it may sound, but he’s like mentos. Tough on the outside but soft and sweet on the inside. Something that Kouyuu does not understand.
Indeed, as Shouka once said, a child does not know a parent’s heart and only those who has been with Reishin throughout knows him well enough.
It was mentioned that Kou kijin belongs to a family of merchants, right? IIRC, Sai Rin, Yuushun’s wife is also a member of a clan of merchants. Aren’t they family? I really hope they’d have a little more about him soon.
November 23, 2007 at 1:14 am
charmian
Well, Gyokukan wanted her to marry Shouka and make a bid for it; I’m not sure whether being married to the head of the clan bars her, but if she wanted to, couldn’t they just make Shouka or Kurou the head?
Yeah, it is uh… a rather non conventionally lovey dovey stuff story. XD
November 22, 2007 at 9:52 pm
aliene
I do think the various noble familes and the 7 “color” families have branch familes or extended contacts in various cities that can form a kind of relay for passing messages, goods and whatnot though. It’s just that their influence is stronger within their own territories. In one of the earlier volumes, the Kou family actually managed a “lockdown/shutdown” of the area around the capital when Reishin was under house arrest wasn’t it? I don’t think Kou province would be that far from the capital with that in mind…
November 23, 2007 at 1:16 am
charmian
That part isn’t very clear, really. Perhaps the author didn’t really think it out very well, but they did have at least six days, or whichever. It’s not mentioned that there was a bank, though.
November 22, 2007 at 9:52 pm
aliene
There are also Chinese groups that translate it, you can google from them (use chinese keywords) and it’ll work.
November 22, 2007 at 9:53 pm
aliene
Kinokuniya in Singapore stocks the chinese version of the novels published by Kadokawa shoten in traditional Chinese. Each book costs between $10-12 SGD.
November 22, 2007 at 9:56 pm
aliene
I don’t think there’s been a mention of Sai Rin being related to the 7 families thou. Isn’t Houju from then “Yellow” Kou family?
November 23, 2007 at 1:12 am
charmian
Ahaha, I thought you were about to say that Reishin is mental. XD Yeah, there are a lot of things that Kouyuu doesn’t understand about Reishin, but I think it’s also because there’s a lot Kouyuu doesn’t know about Reishin. Yuri understands Reishin well cause she’s grown up with him, also.
Mmm, no, their clans are not related. Sai Rin’s clan originally were officials in Sa Province, but she and her brother joined the merchant’s association for various reasons (see earlier summary, can’t recall which one..).
November 22, 2007 at 10:02 pm
KaeBoo
There had been no mention of her being a noble, but she is (or was) the Merchant’s Guild leader, I think.
November 22, 2007 at 10:03 pm
KaeBoo
and yes, Houju is from the Yellow Clan
November 24, 2007 at 1:56 pm
KaeBoo
They need some fanservice for Kou Kijin, I think.
I would really love to see what the author can come up with as his background.
Kouyuu IS mental!
even if he’s like mentos, he is still a perv, mind you…
Any idea when the next installment for the story would come out?
November 24, 2007 at 1:58 pm
KaeBoo
ooops… i mean REISHIN. Kouyuu is on his way there.
November 25, 2007 at 2:37 pm
charmian
There aren’t any other publicly acknowledged members. Prince Seien is officially missing.
I’m not sure. Probably? Neither of them have really shown up. What we mostly see is the bodyguard army, whose duty it is to guard the king and capital.
November 25, 2007 at 2:38 pm
charmian
Well… as I personally define it, no. To me a cousin is someone with whom you share a grandparent. (first cousin) Since they don’t share an ancestor, I don’t consider this a form of being blood related. Maybe they’re in-laws.
November 25, 2007 at 2:38 pm
O.O
he wants to buttsex her duh?!
November 25, 2007 at 3:34 pm
charmian
Yep, that’s pretty much how I read his character. It makes me feel quite sorry for Kouyuu. I guess I also think it’s kind of… unreciprocal how everyone “has to” understand Reishin rather than Reishin trying to understand them, but he kind of comes off as completely socially inept anyhow.
I do totally feel, even if I don’t strictly fangirl and squee over Ryuuki, that kicking him IS indeed like kicking a puppy. Despite his harsh past, Ryuuki is an extremely kind, considerate, and generous person, who tries to understand others, even if he doesn’t always succeed. I guess if I compare Reishin to Ryuuki, Ryuuki then starts to look really shiny…
No, the story doesn’t say that he had any daughters.
Probably Kan Hishou, current Secretary of Public Works. He doesn’t show up in the anime. I think he first appears in novel seven or so? He likes to drink a lot. There’s also a member of the same exam group who shows up in volume twelve. (see that summary)
Hmm… I thought uh… given that Yuri said she didn’t want to know, that his ideas were more direct. >_> He did say he didn’t want to have separate residences.
November 26, 2007 at 2:08 am
aliene
ee yeah I think Charmian is right here....he really prolly just meant sex with birth control measures. Or. well just think about it.
November 26, 2007 at 9:39 pm
O.O
was it mentioned if he had more than 6 concubines?
seems like as soon as one became pregnant he never went back to her bed and moved onto the next? x_x;
i mean I’ve read where in ancient china the emperor would sometimes have thousands of concubines (heck he could probably sleep with a different woman each night for the rest of his life -_-;;)